Ep. 41 - The Murder Machine: Nationalism, the Draft, and Who Pays the Tab?

Five years. That's it.

In 250 years of American history, the United States has been at peace for roughly five years. So what does it mean to wave the flag? To say "thank you for your service"? To call this country a democracy?

In Episode 41, Antonio, Lybroan, and Jon don't flinch. They open with Jon's debrief from a white educator affinity session — what it looks like when white people finally slow down enough to talk about race — and then go somewhere bigger: the architecture of American militarism, the moral weight of sanctions, and the uncomfortable truth that what the U.S. exports most reliably isn't democracy. It's markets. By bullet or bayonet.

Drawing on Imagined Communities and How to Hide an Empire, the fellas interrogate how nations — and the loyalties we feel toward them — are constructed fictions enforced by power. They debate the draft, dissect the "thank you for your service" reflex, and ask the question American mythology would rather you didn't: What exactly are we protecting — and for whom?

Brotherhood, as always, is the method. Honesty is the argument.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

No, what's the day today? I went to a white affinity space at the whitest place.

SPEAKER_02 0:09

We're brothers. We're happy and we're single and we're colored. Alright, cut and print. Beautiful guys. I don't like that.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Welcome to Three for the Founders, where brotherhood meets the breakdown. We've been having these conversations for years. And now you are invited to join us. We'll say the things you are afraid to say and ask the questions you've always wanted to ask. Three brothers, all truth, no filters. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Say, was it an association of white anti-racist educators, or was it a white affinity group? Was it focused on the affinity and things that you all had in common, or was it focused on how can white people be better allies in the fight against racism?

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Both.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

Okay. Both and okay. I mean, it was say more, John.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Say more. It was both. It was let's talk about how we ourselves can be reflective on our role in this in systemic racism and our and make sure that we're aware of our own privilege and what are we struggling with within the confines of being educators. And how can we do a better job as educators making sure we're promoting DEI properly within a very, very, very, very Caucasian environment. But that's also that's a little bit overly descriptive because the truth is our good friend Jillian. Friend of the pod. Friend of the podi and yes. And valuable in a shipwreck. Yes. Invaluable in a shipwreck? Invaluable in a shipwreck. She framed it up as here's John, he's a white dude in the black fraternity. He's got some things he could probably help us think about. And so I did a lot of talking. But it was good. People were very engaged, very talkative.

SPEAKER_03 2:06

What's your takeaway? Like what's one or two takeaways you got from that experience?

SPEAKER_00 2:11

One big one was that white people take a long time to loosen up when you're talking about race. It is not a very natural thing. They they're we we feel very frozen, we feel very rigid, don't want to misstep, say the wrong thing. So it takes a while to break that. Even amongst each other? Yeah, oh yeah. Because it's not talked about that much. This was a cool group. I mean, you know them, Antonio. Of course, I kept having to call you Ray when I was referencing you among this. Of course.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

That's what you get. That's right. Say my name. Say my name. Say my name. There we go.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

So that's the first one, LeBron. That it's just, you know, we it takes a while. There's discomfort and takes a while to just be comfortable talking about how we're dealing with this stuff. And secondly, that this is a very white place. And the role was like, do we are we here to try to understand the plight of non-white people? Or and perhaps is our job to train these children to be aware of their privilege, aware of the system that they, you know, that they get a lot out of and others traditionally don't, and to train their minds to be introspective and aware. And that was that was something that I I realized that we sometimes put the energy into the wrong thing, like, hey, there's our one black child. How are we going to treat that one black child? And I'm not saying we shouldn't figure out how to treat them, but the day-to-day to day-to-day life of these kids is white people, white people, white people, white people. So how do you get how do you make them aware of this bubble that they're in?

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Yeah, but you're you're talking about them as one of them. So there's a there's a different conversation um than the one I have. I know what I do, I know what my responsibility is. You know, my presence, my presence is a present, and so they open the gift every day. Um and that is not um Tiffany box. I love it. Cool deal. I knew we'd do a little review, but yeah, I was happy to be there.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Good, real, earnest, thoughtful, thoughtful, thoughtful people. Good. You got some good folks there. I like them. I think I'll get like you too. We don't struggle with self-confidence in the Messias household. We got other issues.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

That's not one of the things nobody on this screen struggles with self-toggles. Let us birds of a feather, my friend. Birds of a feather. Let us flock on. Flock on. Flock on. Flock so far away. Oh I just want to shout out that the since the last time we've been together. Welcome to Three for the Founders. Welcome. Reynaldo Antonio, public historian, man about town. I like to talk about things and try to put pieces together. Been trying to figure out what the definition of citizenship is and who's really a participant in this polity we call the United States. But enough about me, Mr. James.

SPEAKER_03 5:10

Yes, fellowship. My name is LeBron James, otherwise known as the Math Man. I'm always solving for X, and don't ask me why. I'm trying to survive in this place we call the United States of America and trying to understand that on a planet with seven to eight billion people, that's how many realities exist. So enjoy yours because I'm showed enough enjoy mine. Now let's hear from my man, John Augustine.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Hey, John Augustine, the equalizer among this group for some reason, maybe because I'm the white dude. I am obsessed with communicating clearly because I believe that most of what separates us is misunderstanding. I am a communications coach, I'm a keynote speaker, and I'm a musician. And what I try to do with my time and my energy on this life that I'm trying to enjoy, because LeBron says I'm one of seven to eight billion people and I should enjoy it. I'm trying to help us find ways to be together. Because I think there are ways. So tonight, and as we talk, this ep this podcast is just one of my many, but my favorite manifestations of my desire for us to get through together, to find a way together.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Thank you, good sir. Thank you. Um, we have been having these conversations for 36 years, which is closer to 40 than it is to 30. So I think we're gonna have to change our tagline. But as members of Five Beta Sigma Fraternity Incorporated, uh the three of us have been brothers in arms and in harm's way uh for close to four decades. Um, a lot of our experience as John and I were joining the fraternity, and LeBron was uh setting up impediments and obstacles, giving us some stress and strife in order to do so. Um center around thank you for the building. Um a lot of those uh challenges and conversations that we had way back then in them their 90s, in the 1900s, were centered around uh race and manhood and brotherhood and citizenship. Uh we were some deep thinkers then, we're some big talkers now. And so we enjoy each other's company, we push each other to be better each and every day, and we invite you along to join us in our journey and in our conversation.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

Man, seriously stated. Damn. He said, Deep thinkers back then, big talkers now.

SPEAKER_03 7:38

Yes, I mean so for you big thinkers and big talkers, I got a question for y'all.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Oh, oh wait, are you going are you pushing us off the hill? Because I was gonna read the list of countries that we're in first, but man, real. Okay, here we go. So we are internationally known, and we're known to rock some microphones. I get stupid Ethiopia, just oh the United Arab Emirates, Senegal, the Syrian Arab Republic, Algeria, Chile, the way on, Cote d'Ivoire, Belarus, Hungary, Iraq, Costa Rica, Uzbekistan, Belgium, the Democratic Republic of Congo, the Dominican Republic, Uruguay, Ukraine, what's up, Ukraine, the Netherlands, South Africa, Nicaragua, Morocco, Kenya, Ghana, Portugal, Malaysia, Australia, Venezuela, Indonesia, Italia, just for you, John, thank you. France, Saudi Arabia, Ecuador, Lithuania, Pakistan, Canada, Argentina, Colombia, Sweden, Poland, the Philippines. My people. Hold on, that's a long list.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

I was gonna say, Bad bunny. We'll take a sit, man.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Spain, Alemania, that's Germany for those of you who don't speak Spanish, Finland, Brazil, Ireland, China, Mexico, the United Kingdom, Singapore, good morning, Vietnam, hey now, and the United States. 51 countries around the world, and we're looking to be in more. So if you know somebody out there who would benefit from participating in the conversation, please feel free to share the pod. Please feel free to call a friend, text a friend, tell a friend. If you're not really feeling it, just keep it to yourself. That's all good. That's all good. Thank you, David Melville. That's all yours. And LeBron, you were gonna push us off.

SPEAKER_03 9:46

Man, 51 countries. Somebody, please tell someone in Inglewood. We still are not in Inglewood family.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

So we wouldn't be in Inglewood. It's a country of its own, baby. Somebody please represent. You know they have to know good, so what can I tell you?

SPEAKER_03 10:03

To no good. There you go. So I sent you both an Instagram history meme this morning where we're saying that the United States is going to be 250 years old, and we've only had 16 years of that 250 years where we were not at war. Five.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Five years when we are not at war. Only I thought it was 16. Only five? The one you sent this morning? Only five years, not even one decade.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

Wow. So out of 250 years, we've been at war 245 out of 250 years. I'm just curious, what are your thoughts and feelings about the United States being such a war-mongering, war-hungry country, but yet we espouse all this stuff about democracy and people's rights and all these things that are in the constitution, but it feels more like constipation. Help me out, please.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Oh, man.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Oh, just the discomfort in the stomach. We just you can't go. We're backed up. Our words are backed up. We can't get them out. Just backed up. Just the hypocrisy, just oh, it's got me all tight. Oh. Historian. Get loose, Antonio. Yeah, look at them. You need to show us the t-shirt first. Is it gonna help us? Uh let's see.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

I mean, uh the oh, yeah, no, the the t-shirt. Dark and difficult times lie ahead. Soon we must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy. And I mean, I think that speaks to the conversation that LeBron has pushed us into that teachers decided, right? The United States has decided um, or decided very early on that the sword was mightier than the pen. And then wrote down that the pen was mightier than the sword. And so there hasn't been a decade in the existence of the United States, according to the meme, and according to historians, and according to you know, those people who actually pay attention to what's gone on, where the United States hasn't been spreading its value, because capitalism is more important than democracy in the United States, um, yes, this is true, to other places in order to extract their resources or force them to buy our goods. And we get real mad there has not been uh a time where we as a nation haven't been spreading the joy of democracy and the um balm of capitalism by the bullet or the bayonet. Yes. And so being a student of history, I get frustrated and challenged and am writing papers and thinking deeply about how those bullets and bayonets have impacted people inside the country. That's where I focus.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

Oh, LeBron, that's a good question. I just the way I feel is conflicted. I f I wish that we as Americans in general had a better choice than to than the two that are often presented that are very polarized. One choice being criticize, criticize, criticize, criticize, criticize, which, as we've quoted, was it James Baldwin who said it? I love my country so much that I reserve the right to criticize her. Or so criticize, criticize, criticize, criticize, or the opposite end, full-on nationalistic patriotism. We're the best, we're amazing, America, go raw. I would far rather be somewhere in the middle, and I think most people are, but that's not what's often offered. Even in the question that you asked, I feel tempted to just go, oh my God, how terrible is America. But I'm also like, yeah, but also there were certain eras in which the world needed our military might, World War II, even World War I. Uh and I'm not, and like we talked about, I actually just listened to our podcast, our little teaser from last one, and you know, we were talking about the the artists who have failed us as humans, but do we still pay attention to their art? And one of the things that came out was how nobody is all one thing, nobody's all bad, nobody's all good. And it's the same thing with the country. Like America is not all bad, but we're certainly not all good. So what I was I what I wish is there was just more of a room to be considered a patriot and to say, only five years of peace, that is not good. Like, can we please enter an era where war is not the solution as we do the thing we're doing in Iran right now. Um so yeah, I feel conflicted, man. I feel like there's not a a lot of honesty among those who would consider themselves patriots. That uh I'm supposed to be blind to the fact that we have actually been one of the most, perhaps the most violent countries on planet Earth in history.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

Because I was just watching someone who was saying that, you know, it's it's amazing how America claims to be the righteous country and stuff. And I followed this white guy, he's a politician, I can't remember his name, and he was saying how we've we've killed over 38 million people in not a long period of time through wars, through, you know, the secret, secret people we send in, but primarily through our sanctions. We choke people to death to make them adopt democracy. Yeah. So if you won't change your politics, we just have our sanctions, and we sanction you, and then we starve people to death around the world. Well, we support people don't talk about that.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Oh, yeah. I mean, you go to Central America and South America, and the governments that we have propped up to help, you know, revol, you know, there's a revolution going on that was to our favor, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Chile, whichever. Yeah, there were folks that we supported. So you can count all those. I mean, if you take it, think about where our where our tendrils are around the world, it is stunning. And I 100% feel like when if you're gonna try to make a moral argument that we are superior, the numbers just don't add up. Like, let's be honest. They don't add up. That is yeah, I would far rather folks be very practical and say, no, we're not, we don't have moral superiority. We killed people because we because XYZ, I would at least respect the honesty. Like we did that for oil. Or we did that for this. That's what I'm with.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

Yeah. See, I wouldn't agree, but I would at least appreciate the honesty. Yeah, I would appreciate the honesty at least, and not we're great and we're mighty, and no, we're murderers. I mean, we do a lot of good stuff too. You know, I'm just saying it's just the way they they play it is so crazy to me that they vilify everyone else. Yeah. And everyone else is not even a tenth as violent as we are, but they don't have our marketing machine. Oh, yeah. Because that's why I'm always confused when you see, you know, like when I'm getting on an airplane, they say anyone with with needs and stuff, or anyone with a military ID gets to get on the plane first. I'm like, like, I'm just an educator. Yeah, I'm like, thank you for your service for going out killing people so we can have Teslas and iPhones? I'm like, okay. As long as we're honest about it, I just want to be clear. Thank you for going to kill people. Because no one has come to this land to attack us. Then I'm about thank you for your service for defending us. But when you're going out to play in other people's backyards when you're not invited, what am I thanking you for? I'm just curious. I don't know what I'm thanking you for.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

I think there's a piece where individuals utilize the military for a bunch of different reasons. And speaking to that, they are putting their lives on the line. Whether the people who send them places, right, whether they're on ships in the Gulf of wherever, blocking the Strait of Hormuz, or they are kidnapping presidents in Venezuela, or they are doing any number of things that this commander-in-chief has ordered them to do. Right. The actual people doing the acts are putting their lives on the line and they're wearing the flag. Gotcha. I have no problem thanking you.

SPEAKER_03 18:26

So I'll be like, I'll be like, good looking, like, be careful out there. I would say that. You're getting a GI bill, you're getting you ain't no one's fighting for free. You're getting a check. It's probably the unfortunately, most of the people are poor who are joining the military. So they're poor of every race, and they don't have a lot of options. And the and the the government knows that they can exploit those people.

unknown 18:50

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 18:50

Pump them full of pump them full of the propaganda, you know, give them a rifle and hey. But you're not taking care of the veterans. That's my issue. You ain't even taking care of the veterans.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

Well, there's they they've they've already they've already done their job and paid their service, and I don't need to pay them anymore. And so you'll be happy to know that that pet that Pete Hegseth has is talking about reinstating the draft.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

Yeah, I saw a meme on that. Not a meme, but I think it's just a headline that said Trump was gonna do it. And I I ignored it because I thought this I I didn't have the bandwidth at the moment to check if it was real. But that was about a week ago.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

So now Heggseth is saying it's what's real is that yeah, what's real is that they are going to at turning 18, every um every male born in the United States will be registered for the draft.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

So it's basically like Israel. He's trying to do like Israel. No, Israel is that's male and female.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

Israel is when you turn 18, you do go with military. You do you're doing your two years straight up. Right. I mean, it's sort of the same thing now. I'm LeBron. Because, you know, Israel wouldn't be there if it wasn't propped up by the United States.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

But that's just facts.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

I'm still gonna be called anti-Semitic.

SPEAKER_00 20:03

Well I'll I'll go ahead and look at your body of work and defend you. Yeah. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

Or uh What's worse being called anti-semitical being called racist? I'm curious. Which one in the big scheme of things is worse? Antisemitic. I don't know. Is racist, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Yes. No, it's not. Is it? Yes, it is. No, yes, it is. No, but we we talked about way back. The worst thing you can call a white person is racist. Is racist. As opposed to the worst thing they can be is racist. Gotcha. And so we're living in a time where, you know, literally doesn't mean literally, and words are being turned inside out. We're on the other side of Alice's mirror looking out, trying to figure out what means what. Anti-Semitism and anti-Semitic is so ubiquitous, I don't know that it means very much. Except that those people who wave that flag see it at every turn. Racist has been weaponized to talk to anybody who mentions race as opposed to actual discrimination. So saying Stephen Miller is a racist, Steve Vannon is a racist, Donald Trump is a racist is in itself racist because I'm mentioning race. And yet all these white people are getting right, it is complex. The people aren't the systems are. The systems are. Right. Because they're built to cover themselves. They function exactly as they're designed. I don't know what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Well he's LeBron is properly asking us to split hairs on what's worse to be called uh to be called it's anti-Semitic or racist.

unknown 22:09

Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

I think that's one of those questions you can't answer with a what's worse. I mean they're both bad, right? But I guess it depends on the the who you're around. Um we know that anti-Semitic gets thrown around thrown around. Uh there's plenty of Jewish people who are criticizing Israel and in doing so being called anti-Semitic because they're criticizing Israel. But being Jewish and being anti-tyranny towards the country you're supposed to show alliance to or loyalty to. Come on, man. We can we can think deeper than that, can't we? I mean I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Are they patriots or are they traitors?

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Hmm. Uh-oh. The term patriot, man. It's so problematic. It really is. It really is, man. I mean, it's nationalism. We've talked, we've broke that shit down. Episode Imagined Communities. Communities. Anderson.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Read the subtitle.

SPEAKER_03 23:10

I can't because it's blurry. Reflection on the origin and spread of nationalism. Okay. Ooh. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

Is this all non-pleasure reading? This is all grad school reading.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

Um. So that nationalism book was referenced, but it's not for my classes. And yet it seems as an important, right? The title of it is Imagined Communities. And we talked about white nationalism, we talked about black nationalism, we talked about Christian nationalism. And what is that? And when I heard the title of the book and read the subtitle, like the origins of nationalism, like these are imagined communities. These don't actually mean anything except for what those people want them to mean. And so being a patriot to the United States, right, LeBron asked us the question are you America first or are you Israel first? And I said that's a stupid question. But it's the point of it, my answer, the point of my answer was that if you are holding out allegiance to a political entity that has no geographic meaning in the hopes or the desire or the wish to be a part of something, you belong to an imagined community. Israel is an imagined community that by the force of the gun was put together. And then they used the s use the pen to make it real. Right? In 1948, they also created India and Pakistan, and you had eastern Pakistan and Western Pakistan, which were two geographic areas on the other sides of India, because that way then the Muslims didn't have to move all the way across the middle, right? And now you have Pakistan and Bangladesh in India. And so these are all imagined communities, like nationalism, patriotism, this allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag. Creepy. Amen. It's just true.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

We all just gathered around and said, This is how we're gonna trade. Yeah, that's true. Or a common bullet. Well, I'll go back to LeBron's original question about America killing more people than anybody else, whether it was 38 million or 34 million in the last 20 years, as you said, or some other number. The facts are the facts that nobody has murdered more than us. Nobody is better at it than us. Because you like, let's imagine someone challenging me right now, going, no, no, Russia's worse, or China's worse, or Hitler is worse. Okay, all right. Then in the same breath, they're gonna be like, and our military is the best. We've got the great mil best military in the world. We've got so what you're saying is we are better at murdering than anybody else, right? Because we have the best military and you're proud of it. Go, go flag eagle, hot dog, right? All this shit. So in that order. So if you're gonna say that, then what you are admitting by saying we've got the greatest military and the greatest military history, you are saying we murder people better than anybody else. So let's just be honest and say that. And I guess where I'm going with that is in the current administration, we continue to vote for male figures who are underqualified because there's something in us that just wants to be the murder machine. We just want to be the murder machine. We that that's that somehow makes us feel safe, and we just want to keep status quo. That keeps happening over and over again.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

But John, all these trillions of dollars we spend on arms rather than spending on people in our country, homelessness, education, and stuff. What is it that we are protecting by killing so many people? What is it that we're protecting?

SPEAKER_00 27:08

Status quo in the current system. I mean, like you said, the we've we've been attacked twice on our soil, right? Pearl Harbor and World Transcendent. Besides that. Um, I see it coming around the corner, Antonio.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Do you see Oh no? You you said Pearl Harbor was our soil. I mean, we stole it, didn't we? Wait, hold on. Let me find out. Did we not steal where we're sitting right now, too?

SPEAKER_00 27:44

Yeah, that's true. I mean, I'm in northern Mexico right now. I'm in Los Angeles, so I mean, it's all stolen. But yeah, but that was just the furthest west point of our of our stolen land. But yeah, I mean, we're if you say what are we defending in LeBron? We're defending the status quo. We're defending. I don't know, man. A lot of folks vote for they they vote as I c I come back to this all the time. We out of fear of losing something. We don't want to lose what we have. Even the the worst, like if it's a poor white person in in you know, the Ozarks somewhere, you know, they're like, I don't want to lose my potential and my where I am now, and I'm gonna vote for strong military and strong men at the at the helm. Not realizing, as Dave Chappelle said, you dumb motherfucker, Trump is not for you. I'm rich, he's for me.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Everybody votes like I'm going to be a millionaire. I'm just not there yet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

That's a good point. It's like a projection. Their vote is a projection of what they wish they were or hope to be.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

And when I get there, I want somebody to protect what I have.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

I'm closing the door behind me too. Whack. Yep. I'm not sending the elevator back down either. I'm keeping it. Yeah. Because the building is there. Complex simple. Because people, there's I my own.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Y'all, y'all will get there. It's okay. Y'all get there.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

No, Antonio. Listen, people's people's perspective and experience is complicated, but their core is simple. Their core, people operate to protect themselves. They are the hero of their own story, and they're make decisions based on self-protection. Ten times out of ten. And when it's nine, the the one time out of ten it's not, they write a story about it, and it becomes Harry Potter or Star Wars. It becomes the hero's journey. It's the messianic self-sacrifice, yes.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Thank you for joining us today on three for the founders. LeBron pushed us off a hill to ask us how we actually feel about the country that we all live in, the place that we're all citizens of, and the rights that we do or don't have and are being taken away from others, as we always do. Left on founders.

SPEAKER_03 30:20

Left on founders. Thank you, Baker. Thank you for joining us. Still got questions? Other things you want to say? Well, hit us up at 34Thefounders.com on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, or TikTok. Or send us a text through Buzz Sprout. Remember to like and subscribe wherever you get your podcast and share the pod with someone you think can benefit from it or add to the conversation. Till the next time, Left on Founders. We out.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

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SPEAKER_01 31:13

There we go. It's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

Like we could just like now that I've used to stop staring at this at the solar flare that's God.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Where do I now look? I'm gonna look right there because I got the greatest eyes. It's the greatest eyes I have ever.